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gathered enough explosives to blow up a bus, was mastering the art of plying on motorized paragliders, and had information about remote controlled planes as well. let's go straight to our cnn contributor, paul cruickshank, an investigative reporter and terrorism analyst, joining us from brussels. paul, let's just begin with the fact that ned been found already with these powerful explosives, that the first terror suspects in spain, actually to be caught with explosives, so this tells me, and let me just ask you, this wasn't just in the planning stages. were they operational, and what were they plotting? >> brooke, everything that we're hearing was, this was a very serious plot. perhaps connected to al qaeda, a plot perhaps to target an american naval base in southern spain or perhaps british interests in gibraltar. that's the working hypothesis of national security sources right now. but also concerns that this
group, this alleged terrorist cell may have been plotting against targets in france, maybe elsewhere in europe as well. this was a group which had obtained explosives, and the spanish were very concerned they were about to go operational, and that's why these arrests were made, brooke. >> these men, we know, one believed to be turkish, one believed to be russian, chechnyan. do we know which cells specifically the police believe they had ties to? >> the spanish are saying this group may have been had ties to a pakistani militant group called lashkar-e-tayyiba. this is the group responsible for the 2008 mumbai attacks when almost 200 people were killed. it is not a group that has launched a plot yet against the west, and this may be the first instance of that. it's a very powerful jihadist group based in pakistan. so if that link is concerned with, it will be of deep concern to u.s. counterterrorism officials, brooke. >> and it sounds in terms of planning, paul, that the suspects had information on
remote-controlled planes, they were even learning about paragliding, motorized paragliding. isn't that a new tactic? we've seen attempts, obviously, on planes, cargo planes, but what about, you know, paragliding. how would they have pulled that off? >> that's right, brooke. from what we're hearing from sources close to the investigation, they were actually getting lessons, going up into the air, getting paragliding lessons. this was an imaginative and bold plot, perhaps to target an american naval facility, perhaps other targets, perhaps using these paragliders to sort of swoop in over security perimeters and launch a sort of bomb attack. that's one of the working hypotheses right now for the spanish security services. it's obviously very early in the investigation. but this was a plot that was uncovered about a month ago in spain. they've been watching these people very closely. since then, there's been great cooperation with other, the western intelligence services. so this was a successful disruption of a plot here, brooke. >> thank goodness. one other item, in reading about
this, that jumped out at me as something i had not seen before, earlier this year, there was a posting on some jihadist website, basically seeking spanish speakers. those specifically who are lone wolves living among the enemy. why spanish? >> well, that's right. and what al qaeda is trying to do, i believe this came from al qaeda in the arabian peninsula, the yemeni group, they're trying to get home-grown recruits across the west, the united states, and spain, all across europe to actually launch attacks themselves. because in some parts of the world, al qaeda is under some difficulty, particularly in pakistan. but what we're hearing about this plot, brooke, suggests this is the old-fashioned type of al qaeda plot, where operatives actually sent in, dispatched to the west, to launch attacks. >> i see. therefore, if they're in spain, they would have to speak spanish. paul cruickshank in brussels. paul, thank you. a couple, man and woman, barges into their neighbor's home with guns, knives, wigs. it's dangerous, it's
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another frightening case, i read about this morning here, linked to this synthetic drug, bath salts. this middle-aged couple in north carolina is accused of grabbing guns and knives and breaking into the home of a neighbor, who happens to be their former church pastor. the pastor tells his local newspaper that he talked the couple into surrendering and then they went in the hallway and prayed. folks, this isn't the couple's first run-in with the law. according to cnn affiliate, wcnc, this pair had previously taken bath salts and called 911, claiming the people around their house were trying to get in. we have talked about problems with bath salts, other designer drugs on this show. the stories range from zombie-like attacks to the suicide of a 14-year-old young man using synthetic marijuana for the very first time. and this stuff is spreading across the country. poison control centers got 3,200
calls about synthetic drugs in 2010 alone. that number more than quadrupled last year, topping 13,000. so today, i just wanted to look beyond the headlines, get the nitty-gritty here of this designer drug phenomenon. here to help me is the ceo of the right step, which runs chemical treatment programs. so welcome to you. and i was trying to get this father, understanding what's exactly in these drugs? what's in bath salts? >> brooke, the makeup of the bath salts change so frequently because they're trying to pass their chemicals beyond the law and beyond the drug testing capabilities. so we're not exactly certain what's exactly in it. methadone -- methadrone is one of the chemicals that's making that stuff up. >> that is precisely, george, what this father told me when i was talking to him, that according to him, these kids are getting rushed to the hospital
because of problems with their kiddist or whatever else they're suffering, and these hospitals, they don't even have the highly technical equipment to be testing for all these chemicals, because they keep changing. that's a problem. >> yeah, it's a huge black market. and because it's so accessible and inexpensive, that people are trying these things and not realizing the negative effects that could happen. as we know, 10 to 11% of the population's addicted. and once an addicted person tries this, the consequences are so severe. >> i was reading here, i have a list here of side effects. if you take these, you know, these synthetic drugs. paranoia, hallucinations, delusions, suicide thoughts, seizures, panic attacks, and the list goes on. your facility there, george, at the right step, what do you see? and have you seen an uptick in patients? >> the thing that's been most alarming is the tremors that the folks are coming in with tremors of their hands and shaking, almost parkinson-like, and we're
not certain how long they're lasting. even when they're off of drugs and off of alcohol and sober for 30, 60, 90 days, the tremors are still continuing. so because it's such a new epidemic, we're anxious to see how long some of these folks will be exacted by this usage. and, obviously, at time, when you try it, you don't think of those long-term consequences. >> we were reporting, and i'm sure you know about it, the dea really coming down hard, these drug busts, on these designer drugs, recently, across the country. and you sort of mentioned, and i was trying to talk to this father, trying to understand what it is about bath salts and synthetic marijuana that these kids are into. and he told me, the packaging is kind of cool, as you mentioned, they're cheaper. are they even legal? >> well, they're legal because they're sold publicly in convenience stores. i mean, bath salts have been around for a long time. people have taken baths in them, and i don't know where -- the chicken or the egg, did someone get the word out that said, hey,
if you can try this, you can gaget a high, or did the manufacturer say, we need to sell more of this product, so let's tweak it to give it these effects. because there are some euphoric-type effects, but the side effects are so harmful, people don't realize the little amount of money they're paying for it can cause lifetime effects. >> what do you tell a parent? a lot of parents watching this show right now. how do you talk to your son, your daughter about these drugs, and what do you tell them in terms of, just don't do it? >> i think the compassionate, the honesty, a lot of times, obviously, when someone's under the influence, there's not much you can say at the moment. you've got to get them after when they're still remorseful or just coming out of the high. get them to a professional right away. because any time they try this, it could be their last breath. and much like the father you were describing, i mean, i'm sure he would have loved to have
grabbed that son and said, whatever, you know, the day he was leaving when he was going to stop him, but you just don't know. or kids and young people, we're seeing people in their 30s or 40s, or this couple that walked into their pastor's home, people of all ages, they're trying it and not realizing what's going to happen. and that's the crazy thing about addiction, is that people don't think about the follow-through, what's going to happen after the fact. they think about that high at that moment. so as a parent, as a spouse, you know, talk to them with love and compassion. try to go get them some help, seek help, go to a professional, get assessed, do you have an addiction problem. because people with addiction problems, they have blinders on. they don't -- they can't even protect themselves. and, you know, the bath salts and the synthetic marijuana, you know, it harms the person taking it and it harms the people that they're, you know, near. so whatever we can do to get the message out, the drug testing improvements, the legal system,
cracking down on it. all we can do to protect the person who's trying it and their families. >> needs to happen. needs to happen. i just have this father, you know, you meet people, and i have this father in my head every single day now, if only he had known, if only he had talked to his son, it would be so different. george joseph, the ceo of the right step, thank you. >> thank you, brooke. people standing in long lines, cars wrapped around the block, all waiting for a chicken sandwich. they are supporting free speech and giving one company a huge boost in profit. diarrhea, gas, bloating? yeah. one phillips' colon health probiotic cap each day helps defend against these digestive issues with three strains of good bacteria. approved! [ female announcer ] live the regular life. phillips'. ♪ ( whirring and crackling sounds )
millions of people, perhaps yourself incomed, hunting for jobs and we'll soon get brand-new information on the chances of actually getting work. cnn's alison kosik is live, as always, from the new york stock exchange. we know that hiring has slowed in recent months. now there are huge worries that this trend will continue. we get those jobs numbers tomorrow morning. >> yes, and here's the expectation, brooke, that we're going to see a gain of about 95,000 u.s. jobs last month. and sure, it's a bigger number than june's gain of 80,000, but not by much. and june was considered very, very weak. look how the jobs momentum has been going all year. in january, we started out
really strong, at 275,000 jobs added to the economy, but, you know, what, since april, we've been below 100,000 a month. it's far from where we need to see these numbers. in fact, the economy needs to be creating about 150,000 positions month after month after month to keep up with population growth. and much more than that to just bring down the unemployment rate. in fact, one economist tells cnn money that the current economic environment is just not conducive to get employers to hire. you know what, brooke, many companies are very, very nervous about the future. brooke? >> we'll look at those numbers tomorrow. we'll chat tomorrow. meantime, chick-fil-a, you see those long lines yesterday? >> i saw those -- i was thinking, what are they giving away for free? >> i know, appreciation day for chick-fil-a. and i'm hearing, although i guess chick-fil-a is not giving out specific numbers, we're hearing that the numbers were pretty stunning. >> and if you ask chick-fil-a, brooke, they'll tell you it was a record-setting day. they didn't give any specific numbers, but they don't have to. they're not a public company, like these public companies that
report their quarterly results, chick-fil-a is private. but this big sales number coming right in the middle of this debate over dan cathy's opposition to same-sex marriage. he, of course, is the president of chick-fil-a. chick-fil-a does say that this appreciation day was not created by the restaurant, but former arkansas governor mike huckabee got the momentum really going on facebook. 500,000 people signed up beforehand to support the company and dan cathy. but get this, opponents of chick-fil-a, they're planning their own event for tomorrow. gay rights organizers are encouraging same-sex couples to take to the streets or maybe take to the chick-fil-a parking lots and take pictures of themselves kissing in front of a chick-fil-a. >> national same-sex kiss-in day, i believe is what it is. so we'll be covering that tomorrow as well. alison kosik, thank you so much, from new york. you know, many experts say that college loan debt may be the next bubble to burst here. students are just really having a tough time paying off those loans, so they're coming to the cnn help desk to get their
questions answer. ha hey, poppy. >> today we're talking about how to pay to college. with me are donna rosato and bob olson. >> how bad is it going to be for my children when they go to college in eight years, he's going off. what is their college debt going to be like and how are we going to pay it down? >> that's a question i hear over and over. >> these are scary times. today someone who attends a public school pays $30,000 a year, a private school, $60,000 a year. those are very daunting numbers. the department of education says that if the numbers continue at the same rate, within 15 -- by 2016, the payment for a college education, the tab, has doubled in the past 15 years. but that is the sticker price. you apply for financial aid, you won't have to pay that whole tab. and the key is, this woman has a lot of time. you know, put the money in a 529 plan, where you get tax breaks. choose the college wisely. we talked about this earlier.
you don't have to pay for the most expensive school. state schools often give in-state students tax breaks. and look for other sources of funding, need-based aid, grants, scholarships, those kind of things. those can really cut your tab. >> what do you think? >> i remember being a junior in high school and reading "money" magazine's guide to the best values in education, and i still think there's some great research out there that you can do to pick a college that's going to be the best value out there, so your child is not encumbered with debt when they graduate. >> and for what that child or young adult specifically wants to do. that's so important. >> there's a great rule of thumb that you should base the amount of debt you take on to what you would expect to earn in the first year after graduating. so a teacher's probably going to be able to take on less debt than a pharmacist or an engineer. >> 100%. >> all right, guys, thank you, appreciate it. if you've got a question you want our experts to tackle, you can upload a 30-second video with your help desk question to ireport.com. >> poppy harlow, thank you. and next, presidential
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three months, count them, three months now until the november elections. and today, both president and mitt romney hot on that campaign trail, spending some quality time in swing states. let's begin in florida, where the president is making a campaign stop here in winter park. cnn's dan lothian is traveling today with the president. so, dan, yesterday it was the all-important state of ohio. today, florida. and we heard just a bit of that
speech, talking once again, hammering home the point, i care about middle class america. >> reporter: that's right. and the president just wrapped up a few minutes ago here. that message continues to be hammered here by the campaign. yesterday in ohio, today here in florida, the president pointing out the sharp contrast, he says, between his policies and the policies of his opponent, mitt romney. saying that he is looking out for the middle class and mitt romney is looking out for the rich. and a senior campaign official told me that yesterday was a defining day, because the president was able to cite what he calls a nonpartisan report, a report that shows that under mitt romney's tax policies, that the middle class americans will be hurt, and that the wealthy americans will benefit and the president again repeated that theme here, and this senior campaign official telling me that we can expect the president to continue to hit that over the coming days, because they believe that that message is resonating with voters, brooke.
>> and in the meantime, mitt romney in colorado, hitting right back at the president. so he may not be in florida, but florida senator marco rubio is. and he is stumping for him today. >> reporter: that's right. and of course, he's also a possible running mate for mitt romney, but he was here, and not far away from this event earlier today, he held an event where he talked about president obama, in very kind words, initially, saying that, you know, the president did inherit a difficult, a bad economy. but then he turned and said, but the president made that economy worse. he also told voters that under the president's continuing economic policies, that their taxes could potentially go up to historic levels. and then in one breath, he again complicated the president and took a jab at him about how his policies have been a disaster. take a listen. >> he's threatened to raise taxes on people to historic levels. do you realize that next year when you add up all the taxes that barack obama wants to
impose on the american economy, and you add in state and local taxes, some people will pay close to half the money they make, to the government. >> reporter: now, brooke, remember how the romney campaign has also been hitting the president for those comments that he made last month in virginia, when he was talking to an audience and said that small businesses, you know, if you built a business, you didn't do that on your own, you got help. and they say that just shows how the president doesn't really understand what it takes to fix the economy. well, even though the obama campaign says that those words were taken out of context, the romney campaign has put up billboards around the orlando area, again repeating those words, using those words, and then having local business owners and other voters giving a rebuttal to those words. brooke? >> ah, the back and forth, as we mentioned, three more months to go. dan lothian for us in winter park, florida. thank you, dan. also mentioned, mitt romney
today in colorado. he spoke actually for a moment before giving his speech, talking about that aurora movie theater shooting, where that gunman killed some 12 people, wounded dozens more. take a listen to what he said. >> her name is mikalah hicks. you don't know mikalah, but she was involved in that terrible shooting in aurora. she was hit by a bullet. she was in the theater next door to the most terrible one, and the bullet went into her mouth and took out some teeth and part of her jaw, but she is here and doing well. i guess maybe by applause, we show how united we are with the tragedy of those people, how much we love them, how much we care for them. >> i want to bring in peter hamby. he is on the phone, talking to me here from colorado. an obvious spot for applause for mitt romney, talking about that young woman and the victims there from aurora. but when he then began talking politics and hitting obama,
talking about that report card, how was the applause then, peter? >> reporter: yeah, i mean, strong. look, the colorado voters have to warm up to mitt romney. te electoral map for mitt romney is not very good. simply put, if barack obama can hold virginia and hold colorado, he can lose a bunch of other states that he lost in 2008. all he has to do is pick up either new hampshire or nevada or iowa and barack obama wins re-election. it's that simple. so colorado has to be a state that mitt romney has to win, and he's really tailoring his message to those suburban independent voters, those soccer moms in the suburbs around denver. he was in golden, colorado, today. and after he talked about aurora, he also talked about this sort of five-point plan what he's going to do if he gets into office, focusing on cutting the the deficit, focusing on schools and education, energy, sort of these, you know, these messages tailored right to the
independent voter. look, a lot of republicans have said, in recent weeks, that mitt romney can't just be against barack obama. he's got to outline a plan of his own, so voters have that extra push before they go in the ballot box, are given a reason to vote for mitt romney. and he's really trying to hammer home that message today in colorado. >> let's listen to part of that message. >> i've got to tell you, i can't wait to get to washington. i can't wait to get there. i'm so excited about getting america working again. i'm so excited about restoring the principles that made this nation the strongest in the world. i don't want to transform america into something it's not, i want to restore to america the principles that made us the hope of the earth. we're going to do it together! we're going to bring back america! thank you so much! thank you! >> end of the speech, peter hamby, do you think after that he got some donors pulling out the checkbooks? >> reporter: probably.
and brooke, you make an important point. after that event today, romney is coming here where i am to just outside of aspen, colorado. w why does that matter? because right now many, many of the biggest donors are meeting in aspen for the governor's association retreat. romney will be at a fund-raiser with them later this evening. you know, all kinds of republican leaders are here. karl rove, the american crossroads advantagist, ed gillespie, romney's top adviser, foster friess might be names that are familiar to some of our viewers, those top republican donors. he'll try to make some inroads with donors tonight here in ritzy aspen. >> enjoy ritzy aspen, peter hamby. appreciate you jumping on the phone with us. next, a big name drops out of the effort to bring peace to syria, but praised for taking on the quote/unquote thankless assignment there. all as this comes as the u.s.
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now to syria and this. [ explosions ] >> yet another blast rocks the city of aleppo, this is syria's commercial hub, largest city in syria, and you see the damage. really as of today in aleppo, it is getting even worse. >> now south of aleppo, you have the capital city of damascus. in fact, let's talk about a damascus suburb. video here hosted on youtube shows, at least it claims to show these burials in this mass grave here. you see the ditch, allegedly, after dozens were killed in a government raid. cnn cannot independently verify this videota. this was posted online earlier today. add to all of this the
frustration this this man, on the right side of your screen, u.s. peace envoy, kofi annan, he quit today saying he's frustrated with persistent tuitions within the u.n. security council, those divisions separating russia and china who support the asaad regime from the u.s. and france and britain who want to get tough on asaad. i want to bring jim clancy back to the map, talking once again about syria. kofi annan says he's frustrated. six-point peace plan, we didn't even get to point number one. are you surprised by this? >> it was mission impossible from the start, everybody knew it. but imagine how frustrating, there before the security council, trying to get everyone to cooperate, people are saying, yes, yes, we'll support this. the syrian government, flat-out, you'll remember, the cease-fire was declared, the shells kept flying. >> it was a joke. >> it was a joke -- it wasn't a joke. the death toll rose and rose and rose. and in the face of this, he's trying to do everything. members of the security council, including the united states, revealed today we're giving
clandestine aid through the cia, to the rebel side. they say it's not deadly force, but there are a lot of people in there who are supplying a lot of deadly force, whether it's qatar or saudi arabia, on the asaad side, we've got the russians. we've seen the mirltization when kofi annnan was trying to say, let's talk politics. >> we've been talking about this major city of aleppo, this historically significant city as well. but in terms of today, what's been going on just north of aleppo? >> just up here along the turkish border, syrian forces are trying to cut some of the supply lines. that to them is how they're going to cut off trebles so they don't have this confidence that they might even be able to hold that major city. >> when you say "supply"? >> i mean more arms, more ammunition. yes, they are getting some of it from the syrian forces themselves here when they took that military base, the shells -- they used some of that heavy weaponry -- >> you said tanks?
>> and actually shelled an air base today. so we see a growing militarization here, and with that only come more of those massacre that you show there had. massacred attributed -- you know, outright killings attributed to the opposition, to the free syrian army. >> there's been a lot of talk, and i had a guest on the show yesterday, who's writing a book called "the fall of the house of asaad," and has met bashar al assad many times, and said there's no way he will leave if it's not in a body bag. and part of kofi annan's frustration is there's no plan "b" in terms of transition of power, i know i'm jumping ahead, but post assad regime. >> there is no plan "b." they are going to try to appoint someone else to secede kofi annan, but i can't imagine raising their hand to say, i'll take on this job. but how do all these ethnic, sectarian groups, how do they
coordinate? how do they negotiate? how do they find a away out of it, even if bashar al assad, in the end, and we don't even know if he's going to lose yet. he's still got a lot of military he can throw against this opposition. this is going to get a lot nastier and a lot bloodier, and even if he leaves tomorrow, this is far from being sorted out. there's no plan in place, like you know. >> jim clancy, thank you. >> all right. >> thank you. and police, they arrest a man, search him, put him in handcuffs, place him in a patrol car, so how is it that he winds up shot in the head? we're on the case. tap... pinch... and zoom... in your car. introducing the all-new cadillac xts with cue. ♪ don't worry. we haven't forgotten, you still like things to push. [ engine revs ] the all-new cadillac xts has arrived, and it's bringing the future forward.
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think about this one. how can a man, with his hands cuffed behind his back shoot himself in the head? this is no hypothetical. this happened. police in jonesboro, arkansas, say saturday inside the back of a police car, this is precisely what went down. the police report shows officers detained chaves carter, who was 21 years of age, on suspicion of having drugs and searched him twice before leaving him in the backseat. this incident report says, the officer, and i'm quoting, felt several thumps on my trunk. we, meaning he and this second officer, went to the rear passenger side door, opened it, and observed carter in a sitting position slumped forward with his head in his lap. there was a large amount of blood on the front of his shirt, pants, seat and floor. his hands were still cuffed behind his back. carter's mother, she is not
buying a word of it. >> i can't see how. i can't see how. >> what do you think happened to your son? >> i think they killed him. i mean, what else happened? >> wow. criminal defense attorney joey jackson is on the case with us. joey, you hear this, what's your -- what's your reaction? >> you know, tough story, brooke. it's improbable and highly unlikely. you know, whenever a police officer detains or arrests someone, they're responsible for their care, custody, and control. and when you have a breakdown of this magnitude, people are right to ask questions, and when you look at the facts, things just don't add up. when you evaluate it, you say, not only is he handcuffed, but he was shot in the right temple, he's left-handed. anything you look at here, how on earth could it potentially and possibly happen? but i think that what we're going to see, a reconstruction of this whole incident, the proximity examined to where the
gun actually was when it hit his head, unfortunately. they'll look at a paraffin test, a gun powder residue test, and also examine the trajectory and angle of the bullet to see how it entered and exited. so there'll be a forensic examination, to be sure, so we can get real answers here, brooke. >> but before they exam that, the question that proceeds that is how did the gun get in the car in the first place. here's what police say -- by the way, the gun was stolen. here's what jonesboro police say. >> any given officer has missed something on a search. you know, be it knives, be it razor blades. this instance happened to be a gun. >> police tell cnn the investigators have an eyewitness who saw the entire thing happen. the chief says that this witness saw that the officers, quote, never pulled their guns out and they never did anything. so if it turns out that these officers failed to find the gun, can then -- we heard from
carter's mother, can family sue? >> oh, absolutely, brooke, you're going to the see that. and why, because you would expect, there's an indication that the search was done here, not once, but twice. and there's saying in law, and especially in negligence law, because this would be a negligence wrongful death action. obviously, you search for a weapon so that the police can be safe, and of course the person who is now the decedent can be safe. so the mother has a lot of questions, the community does, we all do. and i think ultimately a lawsuit will be pursued and hopefully those questions will be answered, soon enough. >> it's a tough story, to quote you, joey action, on tjackson, with us. appreciate it. >> a pleasure, brooke. pop-up summer showers bring flash flooding and major damage in the heart of the big apple. meteorologist chad myers talking about it. look at that sinkhole! next. bag of ice anti-freeze wash and dry diesel self-serve fix a flat jumper cables 5% cashback signup for 5% cashback at gas stations through september. it pays to discover.
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this is litchfield, illinois. you see a couple medevac helicopters. one, two, three, i believe we saw a fourth. here's what we know. you see all the ambulance presence, police presence, they're all on the scene. this charter tour bus involved in some sort of crash. this is i-55 near litchfield, illinois. near mile marker 57. there's the bus, it looks, chad myers, you're standing next to me, you see people carrying the stretchers. okay. i'm looking at my e-mail as i'm talking to you. >> there's one moving now. but there's an awful lot of empty stretchers that i'm seeing. so they're still pulling these people off. what's curious is these medevac helicopters have turned their engines off. the blades have stopped. that's a bit curious to me. >> okay. i've got it. here's what we know now from illinois state police. this happened because the bus apparently blew a tire, according to state police, you see them loading up someone into
one of these medevac helicopters. so apparently this bus blew a tire, slammed into the bridge and 20 ambulances a on the scene. four medevac helicopters. and as far as how many were on that bus, how many people were injured, we do not know. but clearly just based upon what having covered scenes like this in person. >> uh-huh. >> you know it's not a good scene when you see all these ambulances, all these crews. look at that across the median here in the highway. so we'll keep an eye on it. we'll let you know as soon as we get anymore here again from litchfield, illinois. i want to move along now and tell you about this massive sinkhole. look at this car just about swallowed. two tires in there. dangling into the sin coal. this is brooklyn. a woman says he and her daughter were inside the car just five minutes before that sinkhole opened up. they got out to walk their dog.
chad myers, how does this happen? >> that has nothing to do with the weather. >> nothing to do with the weather. >> no. this is a sewer pipe put under the ground in 1900. it's now 112 years old, literally. >> wow. >> was leaking slowly enough that no one really saw it go. washing away the dirt slowly, slowly, slowly. this is not the first one on the same street in the same neighborhood. this pipe is so old. it's in bad shape. it's pretty deep. and now these people were driving and all of a sudden there was no ground under them. the road literally went away. >> look at the crowd standing around. i would to. you say this is instance number two. if this is a pipe issue, if i live in that neighborhood, i'm going to be frustrated and want to fix. >> and you're probably going to see people with big heavy chains banging them on the concrete and asphalt seeing if they can hear a hollow sound and realizing that hollow sound is there because there's no dirt under the road. that would be the next place to
go. >> okay. sinkhole in brooklyn. thank you very much. >> you're welcome. >> again, let's take those live pictures again. we are watching some pictures of the bus as this helicopter is zooming out. we are still making calls here on this accident. litchfield, illinois. four helicopters in total. according to state police multiple injuries. we don't know exactly how many. be right back. teaching data e for business. [ beeping ] in here, data knows what to do. because the network finds it and tailors it across all the right points, automating all the right actions, to bring all the right results. [ whirring and beeping ] it's the at&t network -- doing more with data to help business do more for customers. ♪ [ feedback ] attention, well, everyone. you can now try snapshot from progressive free for 30 days.
spoiler alert here. we are getting results now in from this afternoon's olympic events. if you do not want to hear them, put your television on mute right now. let me give you a couple seconds, a couple beats to do that. okay. here's the deal. just in, u.s. swimmer tyler clary was a surprise winner in the 200-meter backstroke. and ryan lochte took home the
bronze medal. two of the men's medley, michael phelps won his 20th overall medal. lochte scored the silver. and american rebecca soni set another world record today. she defended her 200-meter breaststroke title and she won the gold. we just aired a story with her. sanjay gupta caught up with her. she's overcome quite a bit including surgery on her heart. congratulations to all of them. before we let you go, i want to take you back here. live pictures litchfield, illinois. a horrendous scene in the middle of this median. i-55 near mile marker 57. right there you see this bus, it's a charter bus. according to state police this bus blew a tire. and after doing so slammed into that center span there on the bridge. and you see these paramedics scrambling. looks like perhaps that's the front end of the bus, chad myers, that's slammed into that span. 20 ambulances on the scene, four
medevac choppers. >> we just saw one person loaded into the helicopter and that helicopter has taken off for some place. the support in the middle you were talking about, that support in the middle, that span, that is actually knocked off of its foundation. it hit so hard that the concrete has actually moved away. you can see that that is really -- that bus took the impact right where that driver would have been sitting. >> obviously when you look at the scene right here with me you know there are injuries. we don't know specifics as far as numbers or severity of injuries, but we are making calls. we're thinking about these people who were on this charter bus, again, litchfield, illinois, just traveling along when this bus had an issue with the tire and slammed into this bridge. with that, i have to turn things over to washington. i'm brooke baldwin, thank you so much for being with me here on this thursday. now to candy crowley in for wolf. "the situation room" begins right now. happening now, officials scramble to explain why three
commuter airliners, one coming in, two taking off, got way too close for comfort. u.s. ranchers devastated by the drought have a new problem, gridlock in washington. plus, a political animal. find out how ann romney's horse did at the olympics today. wolf blitzer is off today. i'm candy crowley. and you're in "the situation room." we start with a scary communication breakdown that put a commuter airliner and two other planes dangerously close to one another. it happened at washington's reagan national airport. and in an extraordinary move, the faa administrator and the transportation secretary came out today to talk about what happened. our brian todd is at the airport.
brian. >> reporter: yeah, candy. extraordinary because for the first time we're getting the hard information from america's two top transportation officials that this was really too close a call. they came out in a hastily called news conference to say, yes, it was too close a call. another part of that news conference they really want to brush back on initial media reports saying that these planes were on a collision course. they're saying they would not have collided. that would not have happened. essentially the way they lay it out is this. it all played out pretty much over where i'm standing here tuesday afternoon. there was a whole line of planes coming in from that direction toward me to land at that tarmac right there. at some point a regional control center miles away from here made the call to switch directions because the weather at that time was doing kind of what it's doing now, it was changing and the wind was shifting. they said everybody switch directions. everybody's now going to land this way from north to south. and they're going to all take off this way from north to south. well, that order somehow got lost in the communication. and while an